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just a thought, if you are the president of the united states. >> yeah. well, the arab spring, 18 months ago, which the president encouraged and supported throughout is being hijacked by islamic militants militants and fundamentalists. in the crowd, it was like the royal fam leave al qaeda, the brother of the head of al qaeda, and the two nephews of the blind sheikh, this was organized. this is part of a plan. flow what has happened is a country, after could you want reafter country, it is caught on like wildfire, this is not the end of it. you are going to start seeing americans expected. americans harmed. we have-- >>> what will be -- this is the thing, what will be -- you know, the administration -- [overlapping dialogue] >> sean: proud of our foreign policy. then they said, of course, this is not directed at america. my question is, this happened on 9/11. we have learned, this protest, in spite what have they claim is a youtube video has been planned since august. it's 9/11, a day of great significance, as it relates to the terrorist world, why was th
just a thought, if you are the president of the united states. >> yeah. well, the arab spring, 18 months ago, which the president encouraged and supported throughout is being hijacked by islamic militants militants and fundamentalists. in the crowd, it was like the royal fam leave al qaeda, the brother of the head of al qaeda, and the two nephews of the blind sheikh, this was organized. this is part of a plan. flow what has happened is a country, after could you want reafter country, it...
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he was probably very very tough with him: sympathetic to the united states. some of them are in the security forces. theoretical power. very top power. if power directed by president obama at any muslim nation. including iran. >> he stepped up the drone attacks in pakistan. >> bill: that's against terrorists, not against the governments. >> it was definitely against the public opinion in pakistan. it was a very tough stance. kazmierczaked a lot of friction with the government. >> what could pakistan possibly do. i'm glad you mentioned pakistan. >> that is one of the areas. >> wait, wait, wait. >> seal raid. it took out usama bin laden. >> bill: i always have. drones i give them credit for and the raid. pakistan puts the guy who made the raid possible. the doctor in prison for 33 years. that is spitting in our eye. what do we do about that? nothing? a lot of issues behind the scene and under the table. >> in the case of pakistan. there is a lot of pushing and shoving that you don't see. there is lots of action going back and forth across that border. >> so we
he was probably very very tough with him: sympathetic to the united states. some of them are in the security forces. theoretical power. very top power. if power directed by president obama at any muslim nation. including iran. >> he stepped up the drone attacks in pakistan. >> bill: that's against terrorists, not against the governments. >> it was definitely against the public opinion in pakistan. it was a very tough stance. kazmierczaked a lot of friction with the government....
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it's like the wild west was in the united states years ago. there are people who have open trucks with machine guns and weapons on them all the time t. would be very easy for people who were -- who were fighting the government at one time and qaddafi and they would -- they all have weapons. that's part of the concern. it's a very young government, starting out. and there is not -- their police and their -- they're not trained. they are not trained to do what they need to do to protect people. >> greta: do you have a sense that the killers, that let's go in there and we will kill whoever is there, or did you get the sense, let's kill the ambassador? >> i think once they realized the protest was there, that the people were sophisticated enough with the ammunition that they had that they were going to do damage to whoever was in there. the ambassador died of smoke inhalation because of the fire -- >> greta: he wasn't tortured. >> from my understanding, he wasn't tortured. that's what we know at this point. but -- whether or not they knew he was i
it's like the wild west was in the united states years ago. there are people who have open trucks with machine guns and weapons on them all the time t. would be very easy for people who were -- who were fighting the government at one time and qaddafi and they would -- they all have weapons. that's part of the concern. it's a very young government, starting out. and there is not -- their police and their -- they're not trained. they are not trained to do what they need to do to protect people....
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>> we are very concerned because what we are seeing is not the attack against the united states. it's against our values that we share together and those countries who get a lot of money, billions of u.s. dollars every year, from the united states of america, they keep inciting and do not cite -- the radical forces are taking over and weak governments allowing them to attack your embassies, our embassy and we are very worried about that. >> isn't it true that israel has been warning the u.s., that the arab spring protests did not necessarily mean a positive outcome for the region over 18 months ago, that there were extremists who were the leaders of that movement? >> absolutely. in my book i write it very directly that when president obama came to the middle east, he we want to cairo university. he delivered a nice speech, appeasement speech by the arab radical is a sign of weakness. they've seen the u.s. is weak. they're seeing israel is weak. they are wrong birks the way. but that's the way they see it and that's why they're allowing themselves to attack us. you can not show we
>> we are very concerned because what we are seeing is not the attack against the united states. it's against our values that we share together and those countries who get a lot of money, billions of u.s. dollars every year, from the united states of america, they keep inciting and do not cite -- the radical forces are taking over and weak governments allowing them to attack your embassies, our embassy and we are very worried about that. >> isn't it true that israel has been warning...
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with regard to the united states obviously what we see is a widening of this violence. i have no idea in order to project how wide it would go in the next few weeks. >> kelly: what should our foreign policy be right now? what can the obama administration do right now? >> a, we need to protect every single interest that we have and be conscious that this could happen again. b, we need to be very firm with president morsi in egypt and ask him not just through statement, but dismantle those networks pan work with the libyan government, a secular government to go after al-qaeda and disarm the islamic, and these are moves i would suggest. >> kelly: hopefully people are paying attention in washington. thank you for your perspective. >> thank you for having me. >> kelly: thank you. >> jamie: well, hundreds of workers are about to lose their jobs. they're making u.s. military uniforms right now, but the jobs aren't getting outsourced overseas. they're headed to federal prison where inmates will get paid to do the work instead of private businesses. elizabeth prann has the detai
with regard to the united states obviously what we see is a widening of this violence. i have no idea in order to project how wide it would go in the next few weeks. >> kelly: what should our foreign policy be right now? what can the obama administration do right now? >> a, we need to protect every single interest that we have and be conscious that this could happen again. b, we need to be very firm with president morsi in egypt and ask him not just through statement, but dismantle...
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some nation has to lead the rest of the world in trying and that would be the united states. it isn't going to just happen on its own. somebody has to exercise leadership. >> meanwhile, the other big event this week is the argument, public argument between israel and prime minister benjamin netanyahu and the united states over how firmly to draw so-called red lines against iran's nuclear program. it was an hour long phone call one evening this week between netanyahu and obama seemed to have calmed the latest furor down. what message does that send to our foes in the middle east that we're fighting with our allies. >> and we've never had a contentious relationship with the israelis that we have right now. and as we treat israel, you know, the foes say this is not a country serious about being the leader of the world and it is, a lot of people in this country think that the power on the decline in the region and the message is that we're not willing to step up into a role in that world and sort of shape an outcome more conducive to peace and prosperity. would not seem, mary, to
some nation has to lead the rest of the world in trying and that would be the united states. it isn't going to just happen on its own. somebody has to exercise leadership. >> meanwhile, the other big event this week is the argument, public argument between israel and prime minister benjamin netanyahu and the united states over how firmly to draw so-called red lines against iran's nuclear program. it was an hour long phone call one evening this week between netanyahu and obama seemed to...
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the simple fact the united states gets to meet with whomever they want to meet with. it's a silly argument to say we didn't get a formal request to meet in new york and the president is not going to be there and we're going miss each other in washington. if you want to meet with the israelis and meet with the pakistanis you get to meet with them. >> jon: so is the media defending the president on this? >> i mean it depends on who you talk to. the administration didn't get a request. i defer to judy on this. i think the question has to be raised what is obama administration supposed to do. are they going to agree to go to war with iran. that is conversation that needs to be have instead of the tit-for-tat did they have meeting here. what are we talking about here. >> i think the subject, joe cline articulated one view is he called netanyahu's statement treajdz and disgusting. there is a lot of disgust going around the capital because he, quote, dared to interject himself into american politics. the line the obama line is going to be, trying to draw us into a war. that
the simple fact the united states gets to meet with whomever they want to meet with. it's a silly argument to say we didn't get a formal request to meet in new york and the president is not going to be there and we're going miss each other in washington. if you want to meet with the israelis and meet with the pakistanis you get to meet with them. >> jon: so is the media defending the president on this? >> i mean it depends on who you talk to. the administration didn't get a request....
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we've had innovation in the united states for years. think in my lifetime you had polaroid which started, had a success, and died. it happens all the time. if we don't have innovation, we won't have anything. apple is just one. there is a loft fanfare about it. look in the medical products area. there are thousands of inventions coming on constantly, new medicines, things like that. it's good for the economy. all of this is good for the economy. it's not just apple. god love them, let them be successful. i want everybody to be successful. >> cheryl: john, last word? >> wayne is right. numbers don't work on this. $700 billion because of one product, apple does $149 billion total right now. to tracy's point, helicopter bin, it helps if we have cyclical unemployment. we have structural unemployment. so anything like apple that comes out, the key is if you're an entrepreneur, don't copy. create. that's what apple does. >> cheryl: guys, great discussion. thank you, sally, for joining us, good to see you. >> always a pleasure. >> cheryl: comi
we've had innovation in the united states for years. think in my lifetime you had polaroid which started, had a success, and died. it happens all the time. if we don't have innovation, we won't have anything. apple is just one. there is a loft fanfare about it. look in the medical products area. there are thousands of inventions coming on constantly, new medicines, things like that. it's good for the economy. all of this is good for the economy. it's not just apple. god love them, let them be...
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and i completely agree with jonas, but on defense spending, the united states defense spending is more than the rest of the world combined and that's plenty and riots in the middle east, we have to protect our embassies and obviously, in face of this kind of uprising we've got to do a better job and put more troops there, marines there, but our troops aren't going to have to do anything to do with that. >> brenda: gary b, what do you say? >> well, i agree with steve. and todd is just silly on the whole defense thing. look, we're going to double the defense spending protect at the embassy, steve has it right there. i disagree with jonas though, i'd like the fiscal cliff aspect of cutting the spending, why do we need to raise taxes, why is that? that's not going to work for crying out loud. to take money from the private sector and give it to the government that's already super bloated, the most bloated it's been in the la 200 years for crying out loud is ludicrous. let's do it the right way the way that reagan did and government is shrinking and grow gdp. and it. >> brenda: hold on. >>
and i completely agree with jonas, but on defense spending, the united states defense spending is more than the rest of the world combined and that's plenty and riots in the middle east, we have to protect our embassies and obviously, in face of this kind of uprising we've got to do a better job and put more troops there, marines there, but our troops aren't going to have to do anything to do with that. >> brenda: gary b, what do you say? >> well, i agree with steve. and todd is...
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states, try them in the united states, although i imagine that if the libyans caught them, assuming they would do that, that they would then maybe be pressured into bringing them before the international tribunal at the hague. the international court. but then the question is, is it an act of war? this is a terrorist attack, supposedly. >> gregg: on sovereign american property. >> even in another country. do we have to bring them to a civil court? you know. we've got this u.s. attorney who thinks -- or attorney general that we should try the terrorists down here in the southern district in new york, which is a civil court. but even more than that, gregg, the question is, can the families of those killed in some way say to the american government, look, you didn't take care of our families. it was 9-11. you didn't provide security. you were negligent. you didn't listen to the chatter or what you may have been reporting on. the american government has sovereign immunity from lawsuit and the libyan got is not on the state sponsored terror list. so we are not in a position to be -- >> g
states, try them in the united states, although i imagine that if the libyans caught them, assuming they would do that, that they would then maybe be pressured into bringing them before the international tribunal at the hague. the international court. but then the question is, is it an act of war? this is a terrorist attack, supposedly. >> gregg: on sovereign american property. >> even in another country. do we have to bring them to a civil court? you know. we've got this u.s....
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united states marines so-called fast teams. teams to secure embassies are being dispatched throughout the middle east to ensure the safety of our personnel abroad in many public squares across the middle east, flags are being burned and embassies are attempting to be entered by some of these protesters. a terrifying map if you think about it it includes not just countries you would expect to experience unrest. countries like tunisia that you would think relatively unstable. that as it at this that that that -- >> jay carney, the white house press secretary says something eyebrow-raising and interesting yesterday when he was asked what the source of all this unrest is. let's listen: this is a fairly volatile situation not in response to united states policy. not to to obviously the administration or the american people. it is response to it a video, a film that we have a judged to be reprehensible and disgusting. that in no way justifies any violent reaction to it, but this is not a case of protest directed at the united states
united states marines so-called fast teams. teams to secure embassies are being dispatched throughout the middle east to ensure the safety of our personnel abroad in many public squares across the middle east, flags are being burned and embassies are attempting to be entered by some of these protesters. a terrifying map if you think about it it includes not just countries you would expect to experience unrest. countries like tunisia that you would think relatively unstable. that as it at this...